Kris Vallotton, DownPour2010, Epic season & epochs

"round table equality makes for "we get what we deserve/earn" rather than "we get what we don’t deserve i.e. an inheritance" "

We are transitioning epic seasons where we move from rent-a-cop guarding an idea of The law.

The pharisees couldn’t discern The Word made flesh 

but prostitutes could and devils could; the sick could;

looks like the experts didn’t know the seasons like the son’s of Isaachar – the Epochs of God.

One Epoch season was to cross the Jordan – a New Song – a New Way –

John played a dirge no one mourned.

Jesus played a flute no one danced –

a New song is a new Epoch – season –

Foreboding : crown of thorns; thorns of thinking ;

John was beheaded but Jesus was crucified; why?;

the old prophetic ministry was to be no more,

the least in Jesus’ Way would be greater than the great O.T. prophets.

Acts19 people had to be updated from John’s to Jesus’ Baptism.

Israel in the wilderness were on manna welfare –

cross the Jordan, manna stops, need to change;

need to stay current with God;

manna collector experts were no longer current thinking of God;

you would have starved with manna thinking in Canaan;

do we look for His voice or do we stay with an echo; do we shine or reflect;

God always gives us choice to see what we will do.

2 trees in Eden, believe God / believe devil; bring swords / use swords in Gethsemane;  

always a choice.

Pastors want a Domesticated Lion of Judah.

Pastors think they are doing well by developing regulations so the church can’t do wrong;

i.e. the choice now is the pastor’s reaction to a problem he doesn’t want again.

The choice now is stay with this denominalism or go to apostleship.

Denominations gather on what they agree upon and divide on what they disagree on.

It is perpetuated because of our protestant past;

so now live in a protesting culture instead of a culture of family;

our God identifies Himself as Father God; brother Jesus; sons and heirs;

we need to learn not to conflict, so as to reap offense – we think unity is the lack of disagreement –

we are thinking beings – therefore new ways and opinions are formed –

we can view from Heaven and be part of timeless and infinite Wisdom.

Born again potential.

Judas spirit: he was off, gone, out of there, at the mention of covenant; But won’t die (to self?)

The Elijah spirit now turns the hearts of the fathers/mothers to the sons/daughters 

and the sons to the fathers;

round table equality makes for "we get what we deserve/earn" rather than 

"we get what we don’t deserve i.e. an inheritance".

The culture of Jesus is not to hang with people we agree with;

that’s just looking after your own comfort;

remember, crisis always gives opportunity for the supernatural.

The Book is important, it’s held in high regard by God but it is not all there is to Him.

He is bigger than the Book; all the Book is in Heaven but all of Heaven is not in the Book.

We can know the Book but still not know the Author, hence pharisees don’t recognize Grace.

Stop punishing people for having original ideas which might be occasions for the supernatural and

give Heaven to Earth occasions for us;
we want to stop this protesting dividing culture we've brought into the church.


I have written from notes and memory of what Kris said;
its not by any means all of what he said (he's a man firing on all cylinders with understandings);
i've got more to publish later.
Communicate with me via email at
boydatsea@gmail.com
cheers,
boyd

More Understandings on this other site:

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NewDay Church - James

James

We enjoyed a good time of worship. 

I heard a few stories about the insecure becoming secure in the knowledge of the love

that Jesus has for us.

In Communion time we were asked to understand the intimate communication

Jesus has delivered to us through His death, so we can live (an amazing act of Love), 

and His resurrection, which is HOPE.
James spoke on : "where are you seated"

Ps16:9

Where you sit in the physical, may or may not have consequences for you 

but where you sit spiritually will be critical.

Jesus overcame finished His work then sat down on the right hand of the Father.

Your seat in the hall will affect your senses; 

some may hear differently due to distractions or acoustics, 

some may see differently due to distractions and visibility of the platform.

So the input you receive is the input you make your opinion upon. 

Your opinions are based on the view from your seat.

Is.40:

Some days you have the heavenly perspective; 

you wake up praising God, the scriptures open on the ones that make your heart glad; 

then other days you have challenges you thought should not happen.

The heavenly perspective is that youth fails (natural strength fails)

but servants of God are renewed in strength.

Eph.2:4 seated in heavenly places with Jesus by faith.

This seat, this perspective is kept by faith.

There is no works of the devil (pull down, destroy, steal, and kill) in heaven 

so keep yourself in that perspective.

Ps110: I will make your enemies a footstool for you – 

it is a seat of rest with a footstool made by God out of your enemies = VICTORY;

but He supplies the victory for you - a footstool is not an earthly frontline weapon!

Devil angels and their manifestations bring fear and grief (vanity and vexation of spirit).

Do we take the devil on with his own terms – no - 

we take a seat with Jesus and rest until the devil is our footstool. 

Your whole body might want to relate to the earth because of its earthy nature - 

five colours of clay and there are five skin colours.

Our clay wants to relate to the earth but our spirit wants to relate to the Spirit.

To keep that magnetism apart, 

take a heavenly perspective looking from where you are SEATED with Christ.

New Day has inter church meetings on Friday nights :
called Glory Gatherings, these are wonderful times of free and expressive worship.
Be of Good cheer,
BM

A Core vision of NewDay:
Prayer is the foundation of NewDay Ministries. 
To paraphrase Wesley Duewel, 
“Prayer is not the only thing we do, but it is the most important thing we do.” 
That’s the reason we start nearly every workday together in staff prayer.

Infected ear canal healed by holding to Jesus’ love for me.

 

a little of the gunk that came out (sorry for that view, ha ha)

I went for a surf Sunday 7^th march 2010 in the afternoon after the east coast queensland tsunami warning.

I routinely (the last few years) put eardrops (aquaear) in my ears because I had a history of developing ear canal infections, when my ear canals retained water.

This has been occurring since surfing Sydney in the early 70s (maybe a bug from polluted water there).

Last week, even tho I’d put aqua ear drops in before and after surfing, 

I developed an ear infection which became very apparent by Thursday. 

Now, due to many years of suffering ear infections, the usual development is that the infection gets worse and more painful (no matter how i clean and self medicate it) until I’m forced to go to the doctor to get a script for a pharmaceutical anti-biotic. 

Even with the antibiotic the recovery would take days of correct treatment.

So, Thursday I woke up, my body was under attack and I was feeling quite sub-ordinary in spirit. 
In the last few years, The Holy Spirit has moved me into an understanding of the power of Jesus’ atonement at the whipping post, for our sicknesses, 
that is, our healing is not a reward for our goodness as Christians but it IS about His sacrifice for us 
(by His stripes you WERE healed). 
I prayed a less than lively prayer Thursday morning but by Friday I knew I had a physical and spiritual battle to take authority over (I did not entertain thoughts of medical relief, this is my Grace story).  

I rebuked the infection in Jesus name and reminded my self of the wonderful relationship I have with the Son of God. 

Through Saturday I knew the devil and his infection were defeated; and i was allowing my Spirit to be more lively. 
On Sunday morning my ear was only slightly painful in response to heavy touch. 
At church, a maori pastor ministered and at the end of his word, he was doing healing in response to needs revealed to him by The Spirit. One was that the person with the ear infection is healed. 
Although I knew Jesus had healed me physically it was a wonderful affirming that The Holy Spirit was lifting me even more in my mind and Spirit; it was good and God is good. 
By Monday my ear was completely clear with no pain even to heavy touch; thank you Daddy God.

The 1600 s : Revelation of aspects of The Holy Spirit from our forebearers : "The Friends"

George Fox

“The Friends” as in “I no longer call you servants but ..” (Jo.15:15) became known as “the Quakers” apparently because of a slur by Justice Bennet,

(as regards the accused trembling in the Presence of the Holy Spirit) or,

as a proclamation from an accused to this Justice ....“you should tremble at the Word of God…”.

George Fox of Leicestershire (1624-91) had a yearning for Gospel truth from an early age.

Unable to find answers within the state church headed by the English Sovereign,

he soon allowed The Spirit to lead and teach him.

George set a a priority of the reality of Christ within the believer (Col.1:21) and His inner Light (Jo.1:1-14).
The church is the group of believers not the ornate buildings of the state.
He preached against a salaried and professional ministry.
He proclaimed the equality of all people in Christ (which did not go down well in class conscious England).
1000’s of ‘The Friends” were put in prison, some were put to death.
The Quaker meetings were visited by gifts of healings, miracles, discernments, knowledge, wisdom and spiritual tongues.
The meetings would start off in quiet contemplation but as the Holy Spirit moved His gifts would enliven the meetings.
By 1660 “The Friends" had influenced 40 to 60 thousand people from North America to Turkey.
Fox wrote “Book of Miracles” which included ~150 documented healings and miracles.
Although known for their passivity in natural day to day duties,
the Quakers were very bold in the Spirit which confirmed their greater belief in the unseen realm.

Female input to meetings.

further reading in books by Eddie Hyatt and John Crowder.

Revolution Church and Chris Hill stories on my link here:

http://friendsofjesus.tumblr.com/

James McPherson from Calvary Christian Church Townsville, & Kings Buderim

 James and Sam McPherson and children.

 http://www.calvarycc.org.au/church/

"the wicked are not defined by their brand of sin but by their fear"

James is talking about a mustard seed of faith not being about super Christians, at BrisCityChurch.

Ro.12:3 we each have the measure of Faith for one’s own life 

and its not talking to you about another person’s measure.

I think when Jesus says to disciples “you of little faith”; 

this was not a rebuke but stating the actuality.

Matt8:      once on the water there is a greater unpredictability about our environment. 

If we are hearing Jesus, it is smooth; 

Jesus had a word for that storm, so he could sleep; it was “peace be still”. 

Jesus the Word made flesh is Eternal- that storm was temporal. 

If you desire to be in Jesus, you are eternal and your storms are temporal 

and will respond to your Holy Ghost words. 

Jesus was annoyed at their fear and not them as individuals. 

Proverbs says the wicked flee when no one follows; 

the wicked are not defined by their brand of sin but by their fear. 

Joseph Conrad thought an impressive letter he received was a tax bill; 

so he left it unopened for 3 weeks; dreading its contents which would make him destitute. 

When he finally opened it, the letter contained an invitation to be knighted. 

His relationship with that letter was one of fear rather than one of blessing – 

same letter; different connection!

Fear affects our relationship with Jesus and our brother. 

Fear should not be our default position. 

Your brother is not one to be feared; he is not bad (evil) he just HAS fear; 

the devil has pulled him down to the devil’s level. 

Stop reacting to the devil’s agenda and get on with the blessing of Jesus’ vision for us. 

I could spend my time admonishing from the platform the small group of malcontents, 

the few with bad attitudes or the one’s with relationship aberrations or 

I should preach about The Holy Ghost and His love and direction for us; 

then i can be faithful to God and allow Jesus to change the few. 

They are not bad people they are just sucked in by fear. 

Fear sees everything as a threat Faith sees everything as an opportunity. 

Its not about being good or bad, old or young, male or female but are you operating in fear or faith. Take time to say YES to Jesus that you want to commit and recommit to HIS ways.

A few of Calvary Christian Church beliefs:

We believe that sin has separated each of us from God and His purpose for our lives.
We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ as both God and man is the only One who can reconcile us to God. He lived a sinless and exemplary life, died on the cross in our place, and rose again to prove His victory and empower us for life.
We believe that in order to receive forgiveness and the 'new birth' we must repent of our sins, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and submit to His will for our lives.
We believe that in order to live the holy and fruitful lives that God intends for us, we need to be baptised in water and be filled with the power of the Holy Spirit

Martin Steel, Harbourside Church Auckland; at Nexus Church

Martin and Roslyn Steel; Auckland :  http://www.harboursidechurch.org/

I am being challenged by people of God not to compartmentalise the supernatural of Jesus,
it is a whole of life experience to be embraced - yes.

I write a only a part of Martin's excellent talk here.
This is from slim notes of the talk; my additions are in brackets. - Enjoy.....

Martin says :

"I want to release a grace of Faith and Generosity – 

we are not to compartmentalise the supernatural.

2Co.8

Paul uses the example of the Macedonians to show what generosity looks like.

It is more than putting aside of your income to give; 

it is more than sacrificial offering (going without so you have more to give). 

We tap into a grace which is not God forcing a person to do more but allowing God to do more. 

Paul says the Macedonians though in trial; in Joy and in poverty were a rich and generous people. 

Now if you took that to a business seminar on becoming rich & generous it would not go over well! 

eg Ok to be successful make sure you’ve got big problems, you’re destitute but have a happy time! That’s Not the formula you see in success seminars, but Paul says they are a rich and generous people giving beyond what they were able. 

This is a grace from God as shown in Jesus (though very rich He became poor for us then allowed us to be co-heirs)

"WE WANT to tell you further, brethren, about the grace (the favor and spiritual blessing) of God which has been evident in the churches of Macedonia [arousing in them the desire to give alms]; For in the midst of an ordeal of severe tribulation, their abundance of joy and their depth of poverty [together] have overflowed in wealth of lavish generosity on their part. For, as I can bear witness, [they gave] according to their ability, yes, and beyond their ability; and [they did it] voluntarily, " AMP

Now what does giving beyond our ability mean.

There is a supernatural Grace that is at work here.

They gave all they could, then Jesus increased it, beyond their ability.

When that boy gave over all that he had of food (of his mum’s thoughtfully packed lunch) 

that was his generous spirit on show.

Jesus took of that generosity and by His grace of generosity,

multiplied it at least 5000 times to feed the hungry (for His Word). 

Jesus bestows supernatural grace upon our generosity that is beyond our ability – Yes:.

part of Harbourside Church vision :

To build a strong, healthy, and growing church - At Harbourside Church we recognise that it is Jesus Christ who builds the church, we also acknowledge that we have the privilege of being “fellow labourers with Christ” in this cause. The church needs to be built from the outside – in, and from the inside – out. We build from the outside – in as unchurched people are brought into a living relationship with Christ. We build from the inside – out when believers in our church family grow and develop in their walk with Jesus.
We recognise that building ‘the church’ is not limited to our local church alone. The church Jesus is building is a global church made up of believers throughout every nation. Therefore we are involved in the mission of Christ locally, nationally, and globally.